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A simple integration [Solved!]
zhangyhui 09 Aug 2017, 03:26
My question
Hi, I am a junior and met a simple problem. How can I solve the integration as below, `\int^{-\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} dt`
Thanks in advance!
Relevant page
Optimal government investment and public debt in an economic growth model - ScienceDirect
What I've done so far
`\int^{-\infty}_0 e^{-\rho t} dt = 1/ \rho \int^{-\infty}_0 e^{-\rho t} d {\rhot} = 1/ \rho `
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Hi, I am a junior and met a simple problem. How can I solve the integration as below, `\int^{-\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} dt`
Thanks in advance!Relevant page
<a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043951X16300906">Optimal government investment and public debt in an economic growth model - ScienceDirect</a>
What I've done so far
`\int^{-\infty}_0 e^{-\rho t} dt = 1/ \rho \int^{-\infty}_0 e^{-\rho t} d {\rhot} = 1/ \rho `
Re: A simple integration
Murray 10 Aug 2017, 05:29
Hello Zhanghui
As your integral starts from a small number (`-oo`) to a larger number (`0`), we would normally write it as:
`\int{-\infty}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt`
An infinite integral is calculated by finding a general integral and then finding the limit, as follows:
`\int{-\infty}^0 f(t) dt = lim{T->oo} { \int{-T}^0 f(t) dt}`
In this case, we would have:
`\int{-\infty}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt = lim{T->oo} {\int{-T}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt}`
Can you do the next step?
X
Hello Zhanghui
As your integral starts from a small number (`-oo`) to a larger number (`0`), we would normally write it as:
`\int{-\infty}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt`
An infinite integral is calculated by finding a general integral and then finding the limit, as follows:
`\int{-\infty}^0 f(t) dt = lim{T->oo} { \int{-T}^0 f(t) dt}`
In this case, we would have:
`\int{-\infty}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt = lim{T->oo} {\int{-T}^0 e^{-\rho t} dt}`
Can you do the next step?Re: A simple integration
zhangyhui 10 Aug 2017, 08:52
Dear Murray,
Thanks for your advice?
Sorry I made a mistake, the infinite bound is rewritten as positive infinite limit,
`\int^{\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} dt = 1/ \rho \int^{0\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} d {\rhot} = 1/ \rho `
Dou you think that is right? Thanks!
X
Dear Murray,
Thanks for your advice?
Sorry I made a mistake, the infinite bound is rewritten as positive infinite limit,
`\int^{\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} dt = 1/ \rho \int^{0\infty}0 e^{-\rho t} d {\rhot} = 1/ \rho `
Dou you think that is right? Thanks!Re: A simple integration
Murray 10 Aug 2017, 21:03
Hi again. OK, given your correction to the question, the integral you need to do is:
`\int0^{\infty} e^{-\rho t} dt = lim{T->oo} {\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt}`
I'm not sure why you are doing `d {\rhot}` Where has the exponential part gone?
Try to integrate this indefinite integral first only:
`\int e^{-\rho t} dt`
X
Hi again. OK, given your correction to the question, the integral you need to do is:
`\int0^{\infty} e^{-\rho t} dt = lim{T->oo} {\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt}`
I'm not sure why you are doing `d {\rhot}` Where has the exponential part gone?
Try to integrate this indefinite integral first only:
`\int e^{-\rho t} dt`
Re: A simple integration
zhangyhui 10 Aug 2017, 21:16
Hi, I will do as below,
`\int e^{-\rho t} dt = -1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}`
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Hi, I will do as below,
`\int e^{-\rho t} dt = -1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}`Re: A simple integration
Murray 10 Aug 2017, 21:21
OK, good. The next step is to do it as a definite integral, and substitute in the upper and lower values:
`\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt = [-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T`
(That's an upper case `T` as an upper limit.)
X
OK, good. The next step is to do it as a definite integral, and substitute in the upper and lower values:
`\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt = [-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T`
(That's an upper case `T` as an upper limit.)Re: A simple integration
zhangyhui 10 Aug 2017, 21:32
Thank, I will do as below,
`\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt = [-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T = -1/ \rho (0 -1 ) = 1/ \rho `. Is it right?
X
Thank, I will do as below,
`\int0^T e^{-\rho t} dt = [-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T = -1/ \rho (0 -1 ) = 1/ \rho `. Is it right?Re: A simple integration
Murray 10 Aug 2017, 22:00
Where did the upper limit go?
After substituting `T`, it should be
`-1/ \rho (e^(-rhoT) -1 )`
Now can you do the limit of this as `T->oo`?
X
Where did the upper limit go?
After substituting `T`, it should be
`-1/ \rho (e^(-rhoT) -1 )`
Now can you do the limit of this as `T->oo`?
Re: A simple integration
zhangyhui 26 Sep 2017, 00:08
Ok got it! Thank you for the explanation.
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Ok got it! Thank you for the explanation.
Re: A simple integration
Murray 26 Sep 2017, 19:24
For those wondering, zhanghui's earlier answer was correct, but it didn't show all the steps, which is what I was getting at. They are as follows.
`[-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T = -1/ \rho[ e^{-\rho T} - e^{-\rho xx 0}]`
`= -1/ \rho (e^(-rhoT) -1 )`
Now for the limit as `T` approaches infinity for the expression in brackets, we have:
`lim{T->oo} ( e^{-\rho T} - 1) = 0 - 1 = -1`
So the overall integral approaches the value:
` - 1/ \rho(-1) = 1/rho`
X
For those wondering, zhanghui's earlier answer was correct, but it didn't show all the steps, which is what I was getting at. They are as follows.
`[-1/ \rho e^{-\rho t}]0^T = -1/ \rho[ e^{-\rho T} - e^{-\rho xx 0}]`
`= -1/ \rho (e^(-rhoT) -1 )`
Now for the limit as `T` approaches infinity for the expression in brackets, we have:
`lim{T->oo} ( e^{-\rho T} - 1) = 0 - 1 = -1`
So the overall integral approaches the value:
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