I looked up the integral of `sec ^3 theta` and converted `tan,` `sec,` `sin,` and cos in the formula by drawing a triangle based on `x = tan theta` and arrived at `.57155` and not `1.15.`
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Find `int sqrt (x^2 + 1) dx` with limits of integration from 0 to 1 using Trigonometric Substitution.
Relevant page
<a href="https://www.intmath.com/methods-integration/8-integration-trigonometric-substitution.php">8. Integration by Trigonometric Substitution</a>
What I've done so far
I used `x = tan theta` and `dx = sec^2 theta d theta.`
Replacing `x` and `dx` gives `sqrt (tan^2 theta + 1) sec^2 theta` `= sqrt (sec^2 theta) sec ^2 theta` `= sec ^3 theta d theta`.
I looked up the integral of `sec ^3 theta` and converted `tan,` `sec,` `sin,` and cos in the formula by drawing a triangle based on `x = tan theta` and arrived at `.57155` and not `1.15.`
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
@phinah: Good on you for using the math entry system! (I tidied up some of the math expressions.)
Just a small (but important) point - don't miss out the "`d theta`" parts in your second line. It should be:
Replacing `x` and `dx` gives `sqrt (tan^2 theta + 1) (sec^2 theta) d theta` `= sqrt (sec^2 theta) (sec ^2 theta) d theta` `= sec ^3 theta d theta`.
Now, to give you a hint about why your final number is not correct (I'm guessing `1.15` comes from the Answers in your text book, right?).
When we change `x` to `tan theta` and `x` goes from `0` to `1`, what will `theta`'s lower and upper values be?
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@phinah: Good on you for using the math entry system! (I tidied up some of the math expressions.)
Just a small (but important) point - don't miss out the "`d theta`" parts in your second line. It should be:
Replacing `x` and `dx` gives `sqrt (tan^2 theta + 1) (sec^2 theta) d theta` `= sqrt (sec^2 theta) (sec ^2 theta) d theta` `= sec ^3 theta d theta`.
Now, to give you a hint about why your final number is not correct (I'm guessing `1.15` comes from the Answers in your text book, right?).
When we change `x` to `tan theta` and `x` goes from `0` to `1`, what will `theta`'s lower and upper values be?
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
Also this is not a textbook exercise. This is from your website, the question at the end of the Integration chapter, section 4: The Definite Integral. You state it can be solved via Trigonometric Substitution but you solved it using the Trapezoidal Rule in section 5. Thanks.
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Also this is not a textbook exercise. This is from your website, the question at the end of the Integration chapter, section 4: The Definite Integral. You state it can be solved via Trigonometric Substitution but you solved it using the <a href="https://www.intmath.com/integration/5-trapezoidal-rule.php">Trapezoidal Rule in section 5</a>. Thanks.
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
Your lower and upper values are correct. Now substitute those in the integral of `sec^3 theta` you found from the table.
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Ahh, I see. Thanks for giving me the context.
Your lower and upper values are correct. Now substitute those in the integral of `sec^3 theta` you found from the table.
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
which is the web site's answer using the Trapezoidal Rule!
Thank you for the guidance.
Note: concerning how `theta` is written above, I wrote it out in Word.
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Leaving it in terms of theta:
`int sec^3 theta` `d theta` from `0` to `.7853`
According to Wolfram, the integral formula is
`1/2[tan theta sec theta` `{: - ln (cos {:theta/2:} - sin {:theta /2:})` `{: + ln (sin {:theta/2:} + cos {:theta/2:})]`
Therefore, `1/2 [tan .7853\ sec .7853 ` `{:- ln (cos .7853/2 - sin .7853/2)` `{: + ln (sin .7853/2 + cos .7853/2)] ` `- 1/2 [0 - ln (1-0) + ln (0+1) ]`
`= 1/2[tan .7853\ sec .7853` `{: - ln (cos .7853/2 - sin .7853/2)` `{: + ln (sin .7853/2 + cos .7853/2)]` ` - [0]`
`=1.15 `
which is the web site's answer using the Trapezoidal Rule!
Thank you for the guidance.
Note: concerning how `theta` is written above, I wrote it out in Word.
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
BTW, the "theta" symbols didn't show because Word uses a different set of fonts. It's always best to type the math directly in the text box, for best results. I edited your answer so the `theta`s showed properly and also so the answer worked OK on a phone.
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OK - looks good.
BTW, the "theta" symbols didn't show because Word uses a different set of fonts. It's always best to type the math directly in the text box, for best results. I edited your answer so the `theta`s showed properly and also so the answer worked OK on a phone.
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
After finding the integral in terms of `theta` you state that we can change back to x or leave it in terms of `theta`. Above, I left it in terms of theta.
Part Two is to change it back to x. Trying to figure out why I did not arrive at the same answer like I should have.
What I've done so far
Changing back to x:
`int sec^3 x` `d x` =
1/2 [tan x sec x ln (cos (x/2) sin (x/2)) + ln (sin (x/2) + cos (x/2))]
Referencing x = tan `theta`: my right triangle is x opposite `theta`, 1 adjacent to `theta`, and hypotenuse = `sqrt (x^2 + 1)`.
Substituting sin, cos, tan, and sec from the triangle into the integral from 0 to 1:
Got it. Thanks.
After finding the integral in terms of `theta` you state that we can change back to x or leave it in terms of `theta`. Above, I left it in terms of theta.
Part Two is to change it back to x. Trying to figure out why I did not arrive at the same answer like I should have.
What I've done so far
Changing back to x:
`int sec^3 x` `d x` =
1/2 [tan x sec x ln (cos (x/2) sin (x/2)) + ln (sin (x/2) + cos (x/2))]
Referencing x = tan `theta`: my right triangle is x opposite `theta`, 1 adjacent to `theta`, and hypotenuse = `sqrt (x^2 + 1)`.
Substituting sin, cos, tan, and sec from the triangle into the integral from 0 to 1:
1/2 [(x)(`sqrt (x^2+1)`) ln (1/`sqrt (x^2+1)`
x/`sqrt (x^2+1)`) + ln (x/`sqrt (x^2+1)` + 1/`sqrt (x^2+1)`)
= 1/2 [(1)(`sqrt 2`) ln (.8944 - .4472) + ln (.4472 + .8944)] 1/2 [(0)(`sqrt 1`) ln (1 0) + ln (0 + 1)]
= 1/2 [`sqrt 2` ln(.4472) + ln(1.3416)] [ 0 ]
= 1.26
Thanks in advance for the additional guidance.
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
But we can't just do this (trade `theta`s for `x`s)!
`int sec^3 x d x`
`=1/2[tan x sec x - ln (cos (x/2) - sin (x/2))` `{: + ln (sin (x/2) + cos (x/2))]`
The expressions in `theta` need to stay in theta, then we substitute back into `x.` You kind of did bits of that eventually, but it's important we write it correctly.
Expressing the RHS in terms of `x` we need to use (from the triangle) `cos theta = 1/(sqrt(x^2+1))` and this will give us:
`cos(theta/2) = sqrt((1 + 1/(sqrt(x^2+1)))/2)`
Do you think you can proceed from there?
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But we can't just do this (trade `theta`s for `x`s)!
`int sec^3 x d x`
`=1/2[tan x sec x - ln (cos (x/2) - sin (x/2))` `{: + ln (sin (x/2) + cos (x/2))]`
The expressions in `theta` need to stay in theta, then we substitute back into `x.` You kind of did bits of that eventually, but it's important we write it correctly.
This is what we had before:
`int sec^3 theta d theta`
`=1/2[tan theta sec theta` `{: - ln (cos {:theta/2:} - sin {:theta /2:})` `{: + ln (sin {:theta/2:} + cos {:theta/2:})]`
We integrated it in terms of `theta` so we need to have the result in terms of `theta.`
We will use `tan theta = x` and `sec theta = sqrt(x^2+1)` from the triangle you constructed.
But for `cos(theta/2)` we need to use the <a href="https://www.intmath.com/analytic-trigonometry/4-half-angle-formulas.php">Half Angle Formula</a>:
`cos(theta/2) = sqrt((1 + cos theta)/2)`
Expressing the RHS in terms of `x` we need to use (from the triangle) `cos theta = 1/(sqrt(x^2+1))` and this will give us:
`cos(theta/2) = sqrt((1 + 1/(sqrt(x^2+1)))/2)`
Do you think you can proceed from there?
Re: Find integral sqrt (x^2 + 1) using trigonometric substitution
The half-angle formula for sine is similar to that for cosine only we subtract in the numerator.
Substituting the limits of integration:
`1/2 [1( sqrt 2) - ln(.924 - .383)` `{: + ln(.383 + .924)] ` `- 1/2 [0(1) ` `- ln (1-0)` `{: + ln (0 + 1)]` ` = 1.148 ~~ 1.15`
The answer given using the Trapezoidal Rule!
Thanks!
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